Welcome to the Above the Sides podcast! Join us on our journey to uncover what it means to think, act, and live aloha.

The inspiration for this podcast is the late Pono Shim, former President and CEO of the Oʻahu Economic Development Board. His stories capture the essence of what it means to live aloha. He made it known that aloha is a lifestyle - it is not a solution to problems, a marketing brand or to be used as an advantage over anyone else. Aloha is to be honored and practiced.

The name of this podcast is in reverence of Hawaiʻi's Queen Liliʻuokalani, who wrote: "To gain the kingdom of heaven is to hear what is not said, to see what cannot be seen, and to know the unknowable – that is Aloha. All things in this world are two; in heaven there is but One.” Through these episodes, we seek to find that singular perspective, the one that is "above the sides" as we strive for universal peace.

We welcome you to pause with us as we share the stories and voices of Hawai’i business leaders, educators and community members who have chosen to be lifelong students of aloha. Mahalo nui loa for listening.

Listen on Apple Podcasts and Spotify!

On Emptiness with Pono Shim
Pono Shim with Molly Mamaril. 5 minutes. June 2026.
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Can You Find the Aloha Response? with Pono Shim
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 28 minutes. May 2026.
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Storyfinding with Denise Karratti
Denise Karratti and Molly Mamaril. 42 mins. April 2026.
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A Principal’s Path: Kaui Tanaka on Joy and Caring for Hawaii’s Students
Kaui Tanaka and Molly Mamaril. 35 minutes. March 2026.
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Finding the Medicine Within: Healing and Education with Cherilyn Inouye
Cherilyn Inouye and Molly Mamaril. 48 minutes. February 2026.
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From Listening to Doing: Centering Community Voice in Economic Development with Brent Kakesako
Brent Kakesako and Molly Mamaril. 49 minutes. January 2026.
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Where East Meets West: Celeste Connors on Diplomacy Grounded in Aloha
Celeste Connors and Molly Mamaril. 56 minutes. December 2025.
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Cultivating an “Above the Sides” Approach
Cat Awakuni Colón, Dori Baba, Tyler Mejia and Molly Mamaril. 78 minutes. Nov 2025.
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The Difference between Hana and Work
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 4 minutes. September 2025.
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The Two Voyages with Pono Shim [2022]
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 55 minutes. August 2025.
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"Aloha is Love" with Brooke Conway
Brooke Conway and Molly Mamaril. 55 minutes. July 2025.
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Leading with Heart: Kevin Wakayama on Law and Justice in Hawaii
Kevin Wakayama and Molly Mamaril. 45 minutes. June 2025.
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Aloha in Agriculture: Growing a Backyard Revolution with David Fuertes
David Fuertes and Molly Mamaril. 51 minutes. May 2025.
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Navigating with Hye Jung Kim Tano and Miki Tomita Okamoto
Hye Jung Kim Tano, Miki Tomita Okamoto and Molly Mamaril. 65 mins. May 2025.
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Aloha Aku, Aloha Mai with Karl Veto Baker
Karl Veto Baker and Molly Mamaril. 57 minutes. April 2025.
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Remembering Who We Are with Robin Campaniano
Robin Campaniano and Molly Mamaril. 46 minutes. March 2025.
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The Spirit of Yes with Jay King
Jay King and Molly Mamaril. 47 minutes. February 2025.
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Look Deeper: Prince Kuhio Federal Building Blessing Ceremony 2010 [Pono Shim & Hye Jung Kim Tano]
Hye Jung Kim Tano and Molly Mamaril. 29 minutes. January 2025.
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Reclaiming a Producer Mindset with Herb Lee Jr.
Herb Lee Jr. and Molly Mamaril. 52 minutes. December 2024.
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Healthy People, Healthy Economy: Exploring Equity through Aloha with Camille Rockett
Camille Rockett and Molly Mamaril. 65 minutes. November 2024.
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Planting Purpose in Pia Valley with Tyrone Montayre
Tyrone Montayre and Molly Mamaril. 56 minutes. October 2024.
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Rebuilding with Intention with Taylor "Maeʻole" Quanan
Taylor "Maeʻole" Quanan and Molly Mamaril. 59 minutes. September 2024.
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Hana and the Gift of Space with Ben Treviño
Ben Treviño and Molly Mamaril. 58 minutes. August 2024.
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Uplifting Hawaii through New Markets Tax Credits with Chris Hasle
Chris Hasle and Molly Mamaril. 47 minutes. July 2024.
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Part 2: Aloha is the Key: Ancestral Teachings in Contemporary Times with Miki Tomita Okamoto
Miki Tomita Okamoto, Roy Kimura and Molly Mamaril. 54 minutes. June 2024.
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Part 1: Aloha is the Key: Ancestral Teachings in Contemporary Times with Miki Tomita Okamoto
Miki Tomita Okamoto, Roy Kimura and Molly Mamaril. 62 minute. June 2024.
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Mental Health and Tools for Change with Heather Pierucki
Heather Pierucki and Molly Mamaril. 64 minutes. May 2024.
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Awakening Aloha through Community Investment with Tyler Tokioka
Tyler Tokioka and Molly Mamaril. 65 minutes. April 2024.
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Filming the Stories of Hawaii with Roy Kimura
Roy Kimura and Molly Mamaril. 63 minutes. March 2024.
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Part of this World with Scott Nishimoto
Scott Nishimoto and Molly Mamaril. 44 minutes. February 2024..
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Receiving the Baton with Luella Costales and Rachel Alm
Luella Costales, Rachel Alm, and Molly Mamaril. 54 minutes. January 2024.
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Make the Connection and the Story Will Follow with Jason Mejia
Jason Mejia and Molly Mamaril. 55 minutes. December 2023.
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Live Aloha with Rachel Alm
Rachel Alm and Molly Mamaril. 45 minutes. December 2023.
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Hawaii Will Always Be Home with Cindi Heffner
Cindi Heffner and Molly Mamaril. 53 minutes. December 2023.
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Island Resilience and Garbage Galore with Henry Gabriel
Henry Gabriel and Molly Mamaril. 60 minutes. November 2023.
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Finding Lokahi with Shawn Uehira
Shawn Uehira and Molly Mamaril. 54 minutes. November 2023.
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Connection, Not Correction: Talking Story with Ryden Iwamoto
Ryden Iwamoto and Molly Mamaril. 60 minutes. August 2023.
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Stewarding our Gifts with Ashley Ono
Ashley Ono and Molly Mamaril. 60 minutes. July 2023.
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The Aloha Spirit Law
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 9 minutes. June 2023.
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Rehearsing for Life with George Kon
George Kon and Molly Mamaril. 60 minutes. April 2023.
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Japan, Hawaiʻi and the Universal Language of Aloha
Randy Baldemor, Eric Takahata, Luella Costales and Molly Mamaril. 85 minutes. February 2023.
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Remembering Pono Shim with Robbie Alm
Robbie Alm and Molly Mamaril. 71 minutes.. August 2022.
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Finding Your Place with Sarah Guay
Sarah Guay and Molly Mamaril. 55 minutes. March 2022.
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Passing the Mic to Tomorrow's Leaders
Josh Parker, Logan Yogi, Lauren and Allie Saunders, Molly Mamaril, Pono Shim. 42 min. July 2021.
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Reference vs. Reverence
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 19 minutes. June 2021.
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Mental Health
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 12 minutes. June 2021.
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Ozoni, Hanafuda and Being Barefoot with Sage Goto
Sage Goto, Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 50 minutes. June 2021.
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Entry Level
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 12 minutes. May 2021.
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Really, You Named People "Millenials"?
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 13 minutes. May 2021.
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Low Hanging Fruit
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 5 minutes. May 2021.
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Fearlessness
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 8 minutes. May 2021.
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Learning the Ropes
Allison Saunders, Tyler Mejia, Pono Shim, Molly Mamaril. 32 minutes. May 2021.
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Entering a Community with Aloha
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 34 minutes. May 2021.
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Passing the Mic #2
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 2 minutes. April 2021.
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Passing the Mic
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 20 minutes. April 2021.
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Resting in Uncertainty
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 23 minutes. April 2021.
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Stories as Medicine
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 19 minutes. April 2021.
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Welcome to "Above the Sides"
Pono Shim and Molly Mamaril. 8 minutes. March 2021.
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